This week’s hosted by Wendy at The Bibliosanctum. We’re covering the third section noted below, so beware of spoilers if you have not read that far. I’m doing the audiobook version (which is awesome) but I apologize now for any misspellings of names and such. This is actually my second read along of the book and a third reading of the book.
1. Camorr is clearly a man’s world. One of the three female characters who could hold any sway was cruelly fridged, while another remains notably absent. Will Sabetha swing in to save or seize the day? What are your thoughts on Donã Vorchenza’s role?
First, I don’t think of Camorr as a man’s world. We have seen women in nearly all the roles – priests, street fighters, guards on both sides of the law. We have the Berangia sisters, the mother-daughter team on Black Alchemy row, etc. Very few of these women are placed in any romantic sense – the prostitute (sort of), Sabetha (kissing Locke we all are lead to believe), and the conned man’s wife and even then, they have more depth than the average passing love interest in the fantasy genre. So, I wouldn’t place this fantasy in with all the other numerous fantasy books that minimize female characters.
That said, I was little crushed when Nazca was taken out of the picture so early on.
When I first read this book, yes, I really hoped that Sabetha would come in at the end and help make things right. There’s so much build up about her and mystery around her storyline.
Everyone should have a great auntie Vorchenza. She’s awesome. I love her critique of the candied cookie house her chef insisted on making for her. At her age, she’s still very spry and a little mischievous.
2. Apprenticeships, fighting, farming–the Gentlemen Bastards have undergone some significant training (save for physiking!) and testing. What do you think of Chains’ teaching methods? Do you think he adequately prepared them for their future in Camorr?
I think Chains is giving them as many tools as possible. Their various apprenticeships will help the remaining few blend in and disappear – or get close to their enemies and annihilate them. Chains gave them a safe base of operations, and they no longer have that. So now, more than ever, they will have to rely on all they have learned – from butchering farm animals to certain rites of the various priesthoods. I think Chains’s training will allow them to leave Camorr more easily if they so choose.
3. Pour out a forty for those lost. Share your thoughts on the passing of the Bastards and Barsavis.
Wow. Several hard scenes here. When Bug, Jean, and Locke returned home to find it ransacked and the twins dead, that was tough. But then when Bug basically sacrifices himself for Jean and Locke, that was even tougher. Locke is so going to need therapy for this.
When the remaining Barsavis were taken out, it was dramatic and a game changer, but I was not attached to any of them (other than Nazca who was taken out a few days earlier).
4. Everything in this book has been a series of long cons. Do you think taking the Capa’s throne is the end game for the Grey King? Or is there still more in store?
We still have ~100 pages to go, so I expect we’ll see more. The first time I read this, I wasn’t sure if Jean and Locke would be able to do anything about the new Capa Raza (Grey King) at this time or if that show down would happen in Book 2. But I knew something would happen, and probably something significant because we have so much left of the book and I felt the author would want to top what we had just witnessed with something more.
I like how everyone is so polite to those folks who are in charge of operating the lifts for the towers.
Jean is rather a worried hen over Locke when he is sick or injured. It’s quite endearing how protective he is of the smaller man.
I have donkeys, so I can attest to the disgustingness of equine piss. There’s sometimes more solid, jelly like bits in it too. I feel very sorry for both Nazca and Locke. But, as a side note, I do have to wonder who collected all the horse piss and how? How much do you pay for a barrel of horse piss?
Wraithstone and the Gentled beasts of burden – messed up or practical?
Ok, that creepy hand thing that has Jean’s name stitched into it – totally wrong! I would hate to fall foul of such a trap.
Info on the Read Along
Here’s the schedule:
Wk1 / 7th April: Prologue and Book 1, hosted by There’s Always Room for One More
Wk2 / 14th April: Book 2, Ch 4-6, hosted by There’s Always Room for One More
Wk3 / 21st April: Book 2 Ch 7-8 and Book 3, hosted by Wendy at The Bibliosanctum
Wk 4 / 28th April: Book 4 and Epilogue, hosted by Over the Effing Rainbow
You can catch the weekly questions and links to folks’ weekly posts over at our GoodReads group SF/F Read Alongs. Have a look around and you’ll see we have other upcoming SFF read alongs planned. As always, you’re welcome to be lurker, a commenter, or do your post.