Rosemary and Rue Part IV

rosemary_and_rue_read_along McGuireWelcome everyone to the read along of Seanan McGuire’s Rosemary and Rue, Book 1 in the October Daye series. Anyone is welcome to join us! Check out the info at the end of the post.

This week’s host is Lisa at Over the Effing Rainbow. We’re covering chapters 21-END below, so beware of spoilers if you have not read that far. I’m doing the audiobook version (which is awesome) but I apologize now for any misspellings of names and such.

1. On the way to finding Evening’s killer at last, we get to meet the Luidaeg in person. What are your impressions of her, and what do you think of the sneaky ‘deal’ Toby managed to make with her?

Wow! First, I like her cranky, blunt ways. She’s powerful, so don’t let the clutter fool you. Obviously, she’s dangerous but I think she appreciates those who can manage to entertain or trick her (like Toby’s sneaky deal). I bet she has some incredible stories to tell but I also think she’s a little bitter, being the last ancient standing with no real family or friends to commiserate with.

Toby was very daring to do her sneaky deal. I respect her for it but I also worry that it speaks to having a short life span – eventually her daring could get her killed.

The ‘sneaky’ deal seems to cut both ways – both Toby and the Luidaeg each have a question in reserve to ask at some later date. Toby may or may not regret that later, along with all the other futuer favors she’s been passing out in order to save today.

2. Next stop is the Court of Cats, where we see Tybalt in his role as a king, followed by another visit to Lily to finally learn the truth. We get some more evidence of the regard they both have for Toby; in light of previous discussions about Toby’s friendships, what do you make of this new evidence?

One of the things I like about this series, is that Toby isn’t just coming into her powers, she’s not a teen just entering adulthood. She’s been there, done that, and done something incredible to get knighted – and we don’t know (yet) what those things are. So, no, given the little hints we’ve already had about how much Toby’s friends care for her and what she’s done in the past, I am not surprised that both Tybalt and Lily hold her in high regard.

3. Now for the final reveal! Devin ‘fesses up, and Dare is killed defending Toby… Was any of this finale what you’d expected? What do you make of Devin’s reasons for killing Evening?

OK, so while I was hoping Devin would turn out to be a bad guy so that we could at least get him out of Toby’s bed, I expected him to be someone’s minion and not the mastermind. Still, it was satisfying to see Toby figure it out and then decide to do the hard thing and take him out. No Court of Fairie for him!

I think we’ve all seen those movies where someone is really fearful of growing old and dying so they will do anything to prolong their life – even stories like the Fountain of Youth. So, when I think of how long Changelings last and how much longer they have to think about their demise, well, I can see how a self-centered prick like Devin would want desperately to get his hands on the Hope Chest and have some control over his ultimate destiny.

4. The hope chest is given over to the Queen at the end of the story. In light of what we’ve seen of her and the potential power that the hope chest has (regardless of what it does), do you think this was the right thing for Toby to do?

Well, I don’t think she had much choice. Too many knew she had it and the Queen could order or strong arm just about anyone into giving it to her. While I don’t like the idea of her having the Hope Chest because she doesn’t come off as the most stable person, I am sure she has many, many other powerful items in her keeping. This might simply be one more drop to the lake of power she already has.

Other Tidbits:

Mmmm…. Blood Tea!  Not so yummy as one might think.

I really felt for Julie, tho I didn’t like her blaming Toby. It’s like all those years of friendship went right out the window. But I have to consider her nature, that of both fae and cat. When I consider that, I can’t see Julie reacting any other way.


Info on the Read Along

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5 thoughts on “Rosemary and Rue Part IV”

  1. “One of the things I like about this series, is that Toby isn’t just coming into her powers, she’s not a teen just entering adulthood. She’s been there, done that, and done something incredible to get knighted – and we don’t know (yet) what those things are.” — This! This is what really gets me emotionally with Toby. If she was a relatively ignorant-about-life teenager dealing with her problems in teenager ways, I suspect I would never have fallen so hard for the series, or for her as a character. But she has been through the wringer of life, and we’ve only scratched the surface of what it’s done to her with this book.

    I agree with your take on the Luidaeg, as well. She’s a favourite character of mine, for reasons that will become clear in later books… 😉

  2. Yeah, I was surprised by Devin being the mastermind too. I suppose on reflection now it makes sense given who the other suspects were.
    I loved visiting the Court of Cats and thought it was so cool that Toby asked her own cats to show her the way! Julie, that was a shame, I really didn’t expect her to blame Toby but I suppose grief works in strange way.
    ‘One more drop in the lake of power’ – that gives me the chills.
    Lynn 😀

  3. I definitely agree that I like that we start the series at this point in Lily’s life. She’s an adult. She’s done many admirable things based on her own merits rather and she’s done things that people respect.

    Devin. Oh, Devin. I wanted it to be you. I didn’t want it to be you. I definitely didn’t think he’d break down like that, but who knows how long he had to keep it together to not look like a madman? Having the thing he wanted just beyond his grasp definitely did nothing for his mental state.

    I felt terrible for Julie. I hate that she blamed Toby, but as you said, her nature makes it unsurprising that she did blame her in the end. I hope they’re able to cross that hurdle before things get really ugly between them.

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