Words of Radiance Read Along Part IX

SandersonWordsOfRadianceBannerWelcome everyone! We’ve returned with another installment of the Words of Radiance Read Along.  Want to join us? Everyone is welcome. Just check out the schedule post over HERE. Another slight change to the schedule: Liesel at Musings on Fantasia is the host this week. Make sure to swing by her place.

This week we cover Chapter 75 through the end of Chapter 81. Spoilers abound below!

1. What did you think of Dalinar’s tactics, proving Kaladin correct by catching Amaram in a lie? What will happen, do you think, when they attempt to “try” him?

Since we have been riding around in Kaladin’s head for so long, I was impatient for Dalinar to see the truth about Amaram. And I wanted to hear from Amaram himself why he did it. In Book 1, we had a few hints that Amaram did feel justified in doing what he did to Kal.

But I think it was wise of Dalinar to handle it this way. He did look into it right after Kal shared his Amaram betrayal tale to him. And he dug 17 people who backed Amaram’s version. So I expected Dalinar to stop digging there. But he didn’t! And you know why? Because Dalinar is a badass when it comes to honor and he could tell something was off about Amaram. Between Kaladin being adamant (and an honorable young man) and Amaram giving some lame excuse to not enter the dueling ring to help Dalinar’s sons, I think Dalinar needed to test his honesty.

If they ever get the chance to put Amaram on trial, the verdict will depend on whether or not there has been a successful dissolvement or at least lightening up over the caste system (light eyes/dark eyes). If the Light-Eyes-On-Top caste is still strong, then Amaram may get a slap on the wrist verbally, perhaps even in writing. And then things will go back to normal for him. If the Dark Eyes are seen as equals, or closer to it, at the time of the trial, then he may lose all his properties and titles.

Or Kaladin may be allowed to duel him one on one after all and we will have another awesome fight scene!

2. Navani offers her services to Shallan with her mission to find the Oathgate. What do you think Navani’s intentions are? Will she help or hinder Shallan’s mission?

I think Navani has fully adopted Shallan and plans to give her all the assistance she can. I don’t expect any deception on her part, even ‘for the greater good’ deception as seems to be a theme in this series.

3. Moash’s group is still planning to assassinate Elhokar. Do you think Kaladin will allow him to go through with it?

No, I don’t think Kaladin will simply allow Moash and crew to assassinate the king. He had an epiphany towards the end of this section – sometimes good men have to die to obtain a greater good; and then how Tien tried to become a soldier, sucked at it, so was used as a disposable distraction in order to save ‘worthy’ men. Those two thoughts combined in Kaladin’s head and he realized that the King has been trying to be a good ruler, sucks at it, and so people want him dead. It’s not enough of a reason to off a person.

So, I expect Kaladin to go all heroic, save the king, maybe even save Moash (from himself), get Syl back, and go windrunning out to the Parshendi battle and save Dalinar.  🙂

4.The king approached Kal and asked Kal to teach him to be a hero. Do you see Kaladin attempting this? Does this change your opinion of the king? How?

I don’t really see Kaladin attempting to teach the king to be a hero. After all, I don’t really see it as a teachable skill. One can encourage another to do the right, or honorable thing, to follow their heart. But you can’t really teach that sort of thing. You can only demonstrate it and hope others follow the example. And with Dalinar, Adolin, Renarin, Jasnah, even Gavilar & Navani having already set examples for Elhokar….well, Kaladin being one more example isn’t going to be the kick in the ass the kingling needs.

And yes, Elhokar seeking Kaladin out for ‘advice’ does change my opinion a bit. We’ve seen bits and pieces of Elhokar where it looks like he might be trying, but without riding around in his head, we couldn’t be sure. Now, I clearly see that he wants to be something more than he is and that desire alone makes me think a teensy bit better about him.

Of course, I am one of those people that believes actions speak way louder than words. So he needs to sober up, prepare defenses, kick Amaram’s and Sadeas’s asses, or gird his loins and go join his uncle on the plateaus. Or even abdicate and return to Kholinar proper and gets things back in shape there. really, he could take any action, even moderately, and it would be better than what he is doing now.

5. Dalinar tells Shallan to find the Oathgate, and that he might need to use the pathway as a retreat for the army. (No pressure or anything, though.) Do you think Shallan will find it? Do you think Dalinar will need to make use of it. Where do you think it will lead?

I think Shallan will find it. And then I think we will have a very panicked couple of moments while she tries very hard to activate it. Eventually, she will have some sort of breakthrough in her abilities and be able to do so. And yes, if it is opened, it will be used. Now, will it be used by something trapped on the other side that wants access to this world? Or will Dalinar and entourage escape through it to safety on the other side? I can’t wait to find out!

As to where it will lead to…well, I have two guesses: 1) Some other location on this world, perhaps in the greener lands, like Shinovar; or 2) Shadesmar.

6. The battle action is very high where we left off. What do you think will happen when the Parshendi song ends? Will the high storm show up in full force and destroy the Alethi army? Will Dalinar’s troops manage to interrupt the song? Other predictions?

Wow! So much going on here! First, we saw Eshonai chatting with her sister, right? And there was something about the storming blowing from the other direction. So far, we have seen the storms come from the Shattered Plains and move outward, petering out before they get to the greenlands, like Shinovar. So, does that mean they can bring up the storm from say, the Alethi lands, and have it run towards the Shattered Plains? I’m still a bit muddled on that one.

While the storm may not destroy the Alethi army, it could severely damage the war camps, especially since they are not expecting a High Storm. I hope Sadeas’s camp gets wrecked the worst. 🙂

While I don’t expect the Alethi armies to be annihilated, I expect heavy losses. I really hope that all our main characters make it through to the next book, but since we lost Jasnah, I worry.

Navani has something big planned with those fabrials. But they are powered by spheres. And we heard that many of the armies’ spheres have run down since there haven’t been any Highstorms to charge them. So, I expect the Parshendi storm will power the spheres, which will allow the fabrials to work, which will help beat the Parshendi.

And, again, we don’t know what the Oathgate will bring once opened. Will some ancient Knights Radiants pop out and destroy the red lightning spren, thereby saving both Alethi and Parshendi? Will some greater evil that was some how imprisoned or held at bay leap out and try to destroy both armies? Or will the remaining Alethi simply jump through and find themselves swimming in Shadesmar?

I really don’t know, but I do think that the Oathgate will play an integral role in our main characters making it to safety, one way or the other.

Tofu actually believes he is hiding behind this book.
Tofu actually believes he is hiding behind this book.

Other Tidbits:

I wonder how Dalinar got the Shardblade away from the crazy man for days at a time. And since Amaram found it, where is it now? Can the crazy man, who I assume is the rightful owner of it, summon it back to him?

It must be very hard for Kaladin to have to stay at camp with all the elderly, handicapped, or ill. Even women runners, scholars, etc. got to go on this expedition. And to be left bored, injured, alone during the weeping.

I really, really wonder what Zahel meant by choosing the action that lets him sleep at night and how he wishes he had done that very thing.

Those interludes were fascinating! Looks like Kholinar is not being ruled well by the Queen, wife to Elhokar. I had held out hope that we would have a competent ruler left behind to keep the home fires burning.

Then there was that big interlude with Taravangian. I had hopes that Szeth would either retrieve his oathstone and start living for himself, or kill Taravangian and leave his oathstone in the bloody dust. Sigh…..

Shallan took a big leap of trust in telling (and showing) Dalinar a little of what she can do. Hooray for her! I wish Kaladin had been as brave.

Lupin cracks me up. He was helping Kaladin limp around and offered to get a palanquin for him. Kaladin said no, they are for women (in a somewhat disparaging tone, I might add). And Lupin jokingly chided him saying he knows many fine women, even has some for relatives. So funny!

Shen was amazingly brave, surrendering to Dalinar. And the Bridge 4 Crew! I love them for standing by Shen.

Gaz actually dug up a copy of the book The Way of Kings for Shallan. I think Gaz continues to win me over.

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4 thoughts on “Words of Radiance Read Along Part IX”

  1. I agree: I don’t think Kaladin will let Elhokar be assassinated. I really hope he gets Syl back when he finally decides to do what’s right. I’m still not fully convinced that Jasnah is dead. I doubt we’ll see her this book again, but I wouldn’t be surprised if she pops up again some time in the future. The fact that Shallan couldn’t find her body to stumble over is highly suspicious to me. 😀 Interesting theory that the Oathgate might open into Shadesmar. I hadn’t thought of that. That would make it a little like entering the World of Dreams in WoT. A gateway to another plane of existence. 😀

    1. I think the Oathgate will be very intriguing. Are there more such gates scattered around this world? Or is it just the one and it opens to another plane of existence? I am very eager to see what Sanderson leaves us with at the end of this novel.

  2. I think we’re probably all agreed that Kaladin won’t let Moash assassinate the king! Imagine how devastated we’ll all be if he doesnt do as we anticipate! Such good chapters and such a lot of tension. I’ve gone for a completely over the top glass full to the top idiotic scenario for my ending – it at least made me happy briefly!
    Lynn 😀

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