The Path of Daggers Read Along Part V

PathOfDaggersBannerWelcome everyone! This is the third week of the dissection of Robert Jordan’s Book 8 of The Wheel of Time Series. Anyone is welcome to join us, so check out the schedule over HERE.

This week, Liesel from Musings on Fantasia is your host. Our walking WoT encyclopedia, Eivind, can be found in the comments at Liesel’s. Make sure to also check out Sue from Coffee, Cookies, & Chili Peppers.

This week we covered Chapters 22-26. Spoilers run free and in their birthday suits below!

1. Most of this section comprised Rand’s battle against the Seanchan. What are your thoughts about this section? You can address the nobles, how Rand handled it, how the battle went, how it was written, and/or what the ramifications will be. Basically anything you want.

We didn’t get to see much of the action and things were kind of broken up. If I understood correctly, this battle took several days to wrap up, but the individual scenes kind of ran together for me, feeling like they all happened in one day.

I will say that I do like how it started off with Rand almost taking an arrow and ended with Bashere slamming his head into the ground to get him to stop with the lightning bolts on the friendly forces. Bashere has big brass balls!

2. The two noble women with Rand pulled out belt knives when Rand was thrown from his horse. He wondered if they’d been meaning to kill him or protect him before Bashere came crashing to the rescue. What do you think?

Hmm…I think it was a combination of the killing Rand (if it didn’t cost them anything) and possibly protecting themselves from him. If you are protecting someone, then usually one person assists while the other faces outward with their weapon(s) to scare or fight off whoever is attacking. I didn’t see either lady doing that, but then neither are particularly use to fights, let alone battles.

Still, as ignorant as they may be of basics on the battlefield, I wouldn’t trust them while I slept.

3. Liandrin is a slave to the Seanchan! Thoughts? Feelings? Expletives?

Well, at least now I can believe that Liandrin has been punished half-way decently. Just another half to go! :)

If Liandrin gets passed on to a Seanchan Darkfriend, this could be a bad thing as they could do quite a bit of damage together. Still, wasn’t she weeping copiously at one point, when it was just her and her Seanchan mistress left after an encounter with an Asha’man? I kind of wondered if she had been Stilled by the Asha’man, but perhaps it was just a big fright to have to face off with a man who can Channel.

4. Rand’s bundle turns out to be Callandor. What do you think of the way he tried to make use of it and why it didn’t work? Or did it?

Rand seems to be getting further and further away from planning things out. More and more, we see him acting impulsively. Here, we see the same. He took up Callandor in a fit of anger and pride and he didn’t direct his efforts in a direction or towards a certain group of people. Granted, he had to fight Callandor and Saidin. Still, very very sloppy.

5. We see a major shift in Rand’s thoughts/personality here. He’s gone from the bumbling farm hand to a somewhat arrogant battle lord. Thoughts about this? How will it affect events and his chances of making it to the Last Battle?

We still have many, many books to go before the Last Battle….er, unless the Last Battle takes place over 2 or 3 books. Anyway, still several books away. So, we definitely need someone or several someones to take Rand down a notch on the battlefield. If they don’t, we’re going to end up with a burned out or dead Rand and lots of dead allies. If no one else is quite ready to slap the idiot, I volunteer!

Honestly, I expect Cadsuane and perhaps Sorilea to step up to this task and bring Rand back to his center. Then folks can breathe a breath of relief until the Last Battle.

6. Alviarin disappeared from the Tower for two weeks before suddenly returning to stomp all over Elaida again. Where do you think she went? And what is Mesaana up to with that decree recognizing claiming the Tower is “guiding” the Dragon Reborn?

I have no idea what Alviarin is up to. Maybe meeting with Suroth of the Seanchan, swapping secrets and giggling like only Darkfriend girls can. Wherever she was, she was up to no good as I doubt she would go off to run errands, like picking up carrots and embroidery thread, herself.

I think Mesaana’s decree is a mix of underestimating Rand and underestimating Egwene. Rand doesn’t particularly care if the White Tower, let along Elaida, is behind him. (Granted, part of that is his arrogance and believing he can take care of business on his own). Then we have Egwene who is shortly (hopefully) going to unleash Aes Sedai badassery upon the Tower and wreck so many plans. (Can you tell I am so looking forward to that? :))

As to what Mesaana is planning longer term and is hoping to accomplish with that decree, I don’t know specifically. I am fairly certain it is a bid for control and power, but when is that not the case with the Forsaken?

7. The sisters Elaida sent to break (*snorts*) the Black Tower is easily brought to heel. What do you think Logain did to Toveine and what will happen to the Tower sisters who were captured?

Haha! Well, Logain kissed her, even was polite about it. As to what that kiss did, I am guessing it is some kind of Compulsion or Bond. But obviously it is not like a Warder Bond as Toveine would recognize that kind of Bond. She’s mush more pliable now, and I look forward to more entertaining interactions with Logaine. Maybe this is the only way Asha’men can get dates these days? ;)

If I recall, Rand ordered that all captured sisters were to be brought to him first, and then he was going to hand them over to the Aes Sedai. Though I think he would do better to hand them over to the Wise Ones, but that’s just my opinion.

Extra Tidbits

Rand, dashing through the Traveling gates first…..and nearly taking an arrow or two. Rash, very rash.

What is that silly lady’s name, the one with the horse with no bottom? She tried wiggling her charms at Rand! Haha! I wish Rand had been in a joking mood and had waggled his eyebrows back at her, just to see her face drain of color.

Witch hunting, even for Darkfriends, is a messed up business!

8 thoughts on “The Path of Daggers Read Along Part V

  1. Eivind Fonn says:

    Hi Susan! Really sorry I missed last week. :(

    Yes, Bashere is not afraid of very much. Seems like next to his girlfriends, Cadsuane and the Wise Ones, he’s the only one willing to publicly disagree with Rand.

    It’s very interesting to read Rand’s chapters with the benefit of knowing what comes, and seeing just how close he is to the metaphorical precipice.

    You and me both are looking forward to Egwene’s CMOAs. They might just be my favourite moments overall.

    Rand was talking about the damane when he said he would hand them over to the Aes Sedai. I think his policy on the Aes Sedai themselves has been that Asha’man should stay as far away from them as possible. Well, it ended up being the other side forcing the issue…

    • nrlymrtl says:

      Hi Eivind! I even went and checked the spam filter to see if you got caught in it last week. Glad you are back!

      I can totally see how Rand could loose it, but since I know there are another….er..7 books? in the series, I know that probably doesn’t happen soon, if ever. But if I had been reading these books as they were published, I would be worried that the series was drawing to a close.

      Thanks for clarifying about Rand’s rules on the damane versus the Aes Sedai. Since I am working while listening to the audiobook, I know I am not catching everything.

  2. Liesel Hill says:

    LOL. Gotta love Bashere. And in a way you’re right about the Ashamen not getting dates. Other than the ones who brought wives with them (and their wives stayed) most people are too afraid to get near them, much less have a romantic relationship. They’re taking their action where they can get it. :D Rand has three gals. I think he’ll be very understanding about this. :D

  3. suecccp says:

    1. I particularly liked the inclusion of sections front he Seanchan POV – it was much more interesting to see both sides, especially when they had such different views of the fighting. I agree about Bashere: I think he is rapidly becoming one of my favorite characters!

    2. I agree: this could have ended very differently if they had been left alone with Rand for a little longer.

    3. I think the last that we saw her, Liandrin had been permanently Shielded by Moghedien, so I suspect that she is still cut off from the One Power. Plus, I don’t think she has the right personality to be a maid . . . :D

    4. Yep: he is becoming increasingly unstable and needs someone to discuss things with before he blows up the world by mistake. I really hope that someone can knock some sense into him soon.

    5. I suspect that Cadsuane and Sorilea will play a very important role in bringing him back to a more sensible frame of mind. However, I think Min will be the primary force that keeps him grounded until Elayne and Aviendha turn up.

    6. A Forsaken underestimating people?? As if that could ever happen! :D

    I suspect that Egwene is going to rain on a lot of parades when she arrives.

    7. I suspect that Logain would have few problems getting a date or seven! :D

    • nrlymrtl says:

      It would definitely be a different series if those ladies had managed to kill Rand at this point.

      Haha! Yes, well, Logain is a handsome man, and now a bit powerful with his ability to Channel returned. Sooner or later some woman or three will notice the Asha’men have power and they will want a bit of it and think they can get it by bedding a Channeling man. …..but this might actually help the men stay sane longer. ;)

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