The Way of Kings Read Along Part II

Stout as a bookstand.
Stout as a bookstand.

Welcome Everyone! Sorry I am little late this morning – have a headcold and I am running late with EVERYTHING (just in case you were feeling special). Anyhoo, this week, Over the Effing Rainbow (I just love saying that name) is our host, so make sure to swing by her place.

Here is the SCHEDULE in case you want to jump in and join us. Anyone is welcome.

Chapters 7-13 are covered. Spoilers are having a party below!

1. Shallan’s determination pays off, but Jasnah Kholin seems to change her mind a bit suddenly, and when Shallan isn’t expecting her to. She mentions knowing of Shallan’s family… Do you think perhaps she knows more than she admits? Or is she really just a bit more soft-hearted than she lets on?

I expect that Jasnah knows something of the history of the family, maybe more than Shallan knows. Perhaps that is sinister, or full of ulterior motives, but I am not sure.

As far as Jasnah changing her mind, it shows that she is capable of reassessing, especially when presented with new info. While she is very firm, perhaps more so than she needs to be in some cases, she does seem fair. Now is she knew what was going on in Shallan’s head concerning her fabrial, she would definitely be taking a different tact.

2. Yalb comes to the bargaining rescue as Shallan tries to buy books… Do you think there’s going to be a bigger part in events for him to play?

Hooray for Yalb! Shallan almost spoiled it, but Yalb was expecting her innocence and took the lead in that ruse. How funny! I honestly can’t remember if we see more of Yalb or not. I hope we do because he is an entertaining character and his name is fun to say.

3. Part One ends with a ray of hope for Kaladin, as he rediscovers a sense of purpose… What did you think of the scene in the Honour Chasm, and then with Gaz afterward?

Yeah. Kaladin was in a dark place. I hope we don’t see him return to that place again (mentally or physically) again. And that scene is also one of the reasons I like Syl so much. Her care-free spirit showed up at the perfect time to give him something else…..a leafy poison. Ha! But more than that, she also uses a little bit of logic, pointing out that if this is the lowest of the low, if nothing worse can be done to him and the men in the same pit with him, then why not give it a try?

As to the scene afterwards with Gaz…haha! OK, so my man and I were listening to this scene in the car as we were coming home from a movie and when Kaladin informed Gaz of the new rules, a fervent ‘Yes!!’ escaped from me, much to my man’s amusement. And Kaladin is still a somewhat fair-minded man. He used a mix of fear and reward to get what he wanted – the physical intimidation followed up with a weekly bribe. I can see how that would work for many people. Just think of government work – verbal abuse every weekday, but rewarded with a paycheck. 😉

4. We catch up with Szeth for an interlude, and things are very different for him… What do you make of his choice to enslave himself – if it is in fact a choice…?

Even upon a reread, Szeth is still a bit of a mystery to me. I think he might have a little control over who enslaves him, but someone always holds his Oath Stone. Or, perhaps, way, way, way down the line he will fulfill his Oath and then he can be free of the enslavement? that’s a random guess from me. Feel free to point and laugh.

While Szeth is able to be in hiding with his current idiot masters, I don’t like them. Ordering him to cut on himself, with a dirty blade, for amusement? Hmm….I think I see a better use for that blade.

5. We also meet Dalinar Kholin, Jasnah’s father, and get something of a hint that he’s important where the Radiants are concerned… What do you think Dalinar’s ‘fits’ might mean?

For some reason, I thought Dalinar and Jasnah were Brother, sister. But I probably didn’t listen carefully. Anyway, I really like Dalinar. He seems to be an upstanding kind of guy in a nest of vipers and intrigue. And since I know what is meant by the ‘fits’ at this point in the story, I will just gloss over it. Later, we learn a bit more, which leads to more questions, and that is one of the things I really like about this book. We keep learning more about this world, and the history of it, and those pieces keep coming together to make a greater picture, but then I have bigger questions.

Other Tidbits:

Did anyone else pick up on that little reminiscence of Shallan’s? Where she was thinking about her father and how he died and that blade forming out of mist? I had totally forgotten about that and on a second read through, it definitely holds significance.

I thought it was great of Kaladin to go around and introduce himself to the men, one way or another getting their names. Definitely makes a new beginning with the Bridge 4 crew.

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14 thoughts on “The Way of Kings Read Along Part II”

  1. Szeth will definitely be one to watch. And I was impressed with Kaladin learning names as well. Smart man. That alone will bring him loyalty from his comrades. I totally didn’t pick up on the Shallan reminiscence about her father. Good to know. 😀

  2. I have to say: the more I read about Kaladin, the more I like him! I’m also relieved that he’s out of his dark place and I thank Syl for bringing him more hope to change him around!! I really dug that scene where he went around introducing himself to the men too ♥ And I adore Yalb too, I certainly hope we get more of him 😀 I love his humor and how quick he is on his feet! I can sense Dalinar having a HUGE role that will shape the entire plot in one way or another and I’m very eager to learn more…about all the characters here to be honest!

    1. Dalinar’s a great one to watch because he is so straight forward. We know where we stand with him and that makes it interesting to see how all the other characters try to use him or sneak past him or push him.

  3. I get the feeling there’s more to Shallan’s father’s death than an accident. Maybe it was vengeance; he and her brothers seemed like pretty terrible people. Maybe her oldest brother was a nice guy, and that was why they murdered him (I think that was implied, I could be wrong).

    1. I don’t recall what happened to Shallan’s oldest brother. Perhaps, if the father is a tyrant, he arranged something if he felt the oldest son didn’t live up to the family name?

  4. I’m with Miss Mimx – I like Kaladin. Yet again he’s trying to rescue people – even though he’s had to pull himself out of a major funk in order to do so – not to mention way to go Syl with that whole rescue scene – what a hero!
    The Chasm chapter was brilliant wasn’t it! I was worried for a moment there about Kaladin – I didn’t exactly think Sanderson would write his character out but I couldn’t see a happy ending.
    Gaz got everything that he deserved (actually he probably could have done with a little bit more!)
    Lynn 😀

    1. Gaz….It wouldn’t be that hard for him to maybe not help…but at least not beat the men down more. Maybe when he lost that eye of his, his humanity was dimmed a bit too?

  5. I don’t remember how far Yalb’s story goes either in this volume so I’m quite curious myself as to how long he’ll be sticking around. He’s such a welcome scene to all of the seriousness that’s been happening in these chapters!

    Szeth’s masters, ugh. I hope he finds his way out of his current predicament, whatever the reason it was for him being there in the first place.

    Interesting note about Shallan’s father! I think I missed that while I was reading *goes back to the book*

    1. Szeth’s masters are like mini tyrants. Give them a little power, even over just 1 man, and how many would do as they have done to Szeth? I see another psychological experiment, using Szeth.

      “Here you go. This man is your slave for the next week. There’s only 1 rule: he can’t kill himself. Enjoy!”

      See, I’m already making a list in my head of really tough farm chores.

  6. Wow, I missed the thing about the blade forming out of mist in Shallan’s memory as well. Fascinating! And I’m actually pretty sure Dalinar is Jasnah’s uncle and she is the king’s sister, but I could be confused.

  7. 1. I am pretty sure that WE don’t know everything relevant about Shallan’s father, and I wouldn’t be surprised to find that Jasnah knows quite a lot more than Shallan herself who was closeted for most of her life.

    3. I love Syl’s growing awareness of the world around her, even though she finds it somewhat confusing at the moment: it is such an unusual way for a character to develop.

    4. Good point: how can Szeth release himself from his Oathstone? Perhaps that isn’t possible, but it would be a very interesting character transition to follow.

    5. I agree about the world building: it is so deep and complex that answers just raise more questions . . . but in a good way!

    I hadn’t noticed Shallan’s memory of a shardblade – I wonder if that was how her father died and who was wielding it?

    1. It’ll be interesting to see what Jasnah knows , or doesn’t, about Shallan and her family.

      I would like to know what would release any Shin from their Oathstone. Would be some little bit of knowledge worth having, especially if they harbor any other warriors as skilled as Szeth.

      Shallan’s little mostly-blocked memory of the shardblade was like 2-3 sentences while she was walking the Palleneum worrying about letting her family down.

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