The Great Hunt Read Along Part V

JordanGreatHuntBannerToday we are dissecting Chapters 28-34. I hope you have all enjoyed some of the interesting points in this section. Make sure to leave your link int he comments so I can visit all of you. Looking forward to reading your thoughts.

1) Ingtar is really gung ho about the Horn. Is anyone else worried about his obsession? Have you ever experienced such an obsession?

I think perhaps the potential glory has gone to Ingtar’s head. He is desperate to find this horn. Perhaps he feels the need to obtain a certain level of glory before….becoming a ruler? asking a certain lady to wed him? I’m not sure what the underlying cause is that is driving him, but he has monovision for sure.

I often tell folks I have only 2 addictions, which can be like obsessions in the right light: my man, and Dr. Pepper. Yep. Something deeply moving (or sappy) and chemical sugar in just the right combination with a variety of preservatives and cancer-causing agents. Moving to shallow – in the snap of a finger. That’s how I roll.

2) In Chapter 28, we hear about the Jenn Aiel, Rhuidean, and their prophecy of a man of their blood from beyond the Spine of the World. It appears that Rand isn’t tied to just one people/culture and their prophecies, but multiple peoples. Are you enjoying guessing (or watching, if you have read before) how Rand will be ensnared by all these demands upon him?

Poor Rand. Even if he did manage to truly get away from the Aes Sedai, it sounds like he would not escape the prophecy – because it is everywhere, in one form or another. Perhaps he should have the various versions laid before him and he could pick his favorite. All these different titles probably come with different costumes…er, uniforms. He could pick the one that best shows off his physique. He’s been sword training and traveling, so he must have a physique by now.

3) Through White Cloak Bornhald and Captain Domon, we get our first rumors and glimpses of the Seanchan, descendants of Artur Hawkwing’s armies, from across the sea. What do make of them? How do you think the military forces we have met so far will fair? If you have read before, feel free to critique their hierarchy and style of armor.

These Seanchan are really and all or nothing kind of folks. Either you are too far below for them to take notice of you, or they demand everything of you – and if you don’t give it, they will grind you into little flakes of dust to be lost on the wind. I really do hope the military forces we have seen so far – Ingtar and crew, the Aiel, even the White Cloaks, Aes Sedai + warders, – can set aside their squabbles for a little and do some righteous kick-ass action on these Seanchan. Besides, i have grown rather fond of Cpt. Domon and I don’t like the way he was treated.

Waffles & Streak sleeping in the bed. Yes, I did tuck him in.
Waffles & Streak sleeping in the bed. Yes, I did tuck him in.

4) Just for fun, what do you think Padan Fain had on Lord Barthanes?

Fain had something so deeply disturbing on Barthanes to force him to 1) allow Fain to use his Grove, 2) allow a troupe of trollocs through his grounds to the Grove (I assume Fain took at least some of them with him), and 3) carry a verbal message to Rand (way beneath his dignity). Now, Barthanes is one of the most powerful in the city, and I assume he not only has his share of secrets, but knows how to hide them well. It’s got to be something that, if it came to light, he could not bribe his way out of hte consequences (with money, or other people’s naughty secrets he has tucked under his pillow). Hmmm… That leaves a) child sacrifice, b) mating with animals, c) bedding the king, his wife, or his relations,  or d) Fain got a hold of Barthanes’ little black book of Other Peoples’ Secrets and offered it back in exchange for Waygate use. Your guess?

5) Machin Shin, the Black Wind, was waiting for them in the Waygate in the Grove at Barthanes. Coincidence, or set there on purpose?

Ooooo! I know Verin says it is not possible, but yes, I think the Black Wind wants Rand, in a totally bad way – like R for violence kind of way. I wonder how the Dark ones are controlling/negotiating/directing it to sit at the Waygate? What could it want or be afraid of so badly that it would do the bidding of another? Or it is strongly attracted to Rand because he can channel. I am guessing we won’t have the answers to that one for this book, but I definitely look forward to this little puzzle being solved.

6) Ah! Poor Thom! How do you think the latest turn of loosing Dena will affect him? If you’ve read before, feel free to comment on how Robert Jordan’s ability to write in characters and then kill them off pull on your emotions.

Damn! Triple juggling knives damn! I was looking forward to having a female character who isn’t necessarily tied to the Aes Sedai. And I wanted to see if Dena would encourage or discourage Thom from pursuing the Horn. On the other hand, I think it would probably take an act like this to pull Thom out of his hiding and fling him into action. I definitely look forward to seeing what he will do. I think  Thom bent on cold revenge will be quality entertainment for me.

Other Tidbits:

Seanchan = Bug heads *snickering every time their armor is mentioned*

I am listening to the audio version, and Verin & Perrin are traveling together and sometimes I miss the V or P and I have to listen very carefully to figure out who is chatting. Nuts.

I want Fain to piss off Turak very, very badly.

What Others Think:

On Starships & Dragonwings

Musings on Fantasia

8 thoughts on “The Great Hunt Read Along Part V”

  1. Good morning! Great questions this week. I had a hard time avoiding the spoilers. 🙂

    1. Yeah he is. Hm. Hm, hm hm.

    2. I can’t wait until you get to the more Aiel-y bits. I really like them. Like, a lot.

    3. The Seanchan: you either love them or hate them. I’m not particularly fond of them myself, but from what we’ve seen they are powerful, politically stable and they have a disciplined and professional military. And they know how to invade (don’t make enemies of the locals).

    4. Isn’t it implied that Barthanes is a darkfriend? The ranks within their… um, ranks, may not necessarily follow traditional ones. It could be that Fain is just up the chain of command. Or, he’s just that scary.

    5. I don’t think it was on purpose. When Fain arrives in Falme he thinks to himself that Rand is only a day or two behind him, so he probably doesn’t know that Machin Shin is now preventing Rand from following him.

    6. Yeah, I was grinning last week when I read about people’s thoughts on Dena. But I agree, there is a saturation of Aes Sedai-related characters among the females, which is why Min is so cool. There will be a few others in time, as well.

    1. Spoiler pitfalls left and right for the fans who have read the book – oops! My bad. I didn’t think some of them were pointing to spoilers, so it shall be interesting to see how some of these questions are answered in the series.

      Good point about Fain expecting Rand sooner rather than later – so Fain probably didn’t set Machin Shin in the waygate. Interesting.

  2. I like the idea of Rand being able to choose his favorite version of the prophecies. 😀 And I totally want a Fain vs Turak scene too, but I think Fain is so twisted, Turak would just be toast. Not much of a contest there. 😀

  3. Oo, I didn’t think about Ingtar wanting glory for those purposes, good idea! I’m hoping that he’s just obsessed with not shaming himself by failing a vow, but the Horn doesn’t like people searching for glory right?

    1. I too think that the Horn shuns glory for itself – so the goal must be something other for the Horn to end up in your hands….so maybe Rand will be the one to end up with it, as he is focused on the dagger o’doom.

Comments are always appreciated, so don't be shy!